Thank you so much for your consideration, There CAN be women from different denominations there, what is so wrong with that? Parables arent the same thing as eisegesis (or Jesus would have been handling Scripture improperly, Himself), and its easy to see this by reading through (in context) several of Jesus parables. Yes, its a big deal and, yes, I will continue to teach and write about it. - Theres lingering sin. But books and blogs written for women are not what 1 Timothy 2:12 refers to, and its not the same as willingly allowing men to attend (which is something Beth and Priscilla both do) an event where a woman, in an authoritative position, is teaching Gods word to believers, or accepting speaking engagements that are open to men. Unfortunately, Word Press doesnt show me that kind of thing until after Ive published my own comment. My exact words were: I knew she was his daughter, but Im completely unfamiliar with him or his doctrine. Since I made that comment, Ive seen several endorsements of Priscilla Shirer and her materials by Tony Evans, so I guess that tells us his perspective and the fact that hes not very discerning. There are My co-leader read your thoughts about Priscilla and I presented your views to the members of our study. These women are an excellent entry way in to the faith. The proper method of teaching Scripture is exegesis. It is people like Priscilla Shirer who make up their own doctrine and point people to their personal views rather than the Bible. I hope youll find my response helpful anyway :0). 52-week preaching calendar to help you plan your sermons, Customizable sermon manuscripts for verse-by-verse preaching, Preach with creativity and impact throughout the year, [NEW YEAR] 4-Week Series to kick off 2023, [PRODUCTIVITY] Fulfill your full potential, [FOUNDATIONS] Getting back to what matters most. read more, Scripture: Fortunately, those arent your only two choices. You could choose to simply pick up your Bible and study it. And when it was evening, his disciples came to him, saying, This is a desert place, and the time is now past; send the multitude away, that they may go into the villages, and buy themselves victuals. Heres why. -Opened new Priscilla Shirer is not as well known, which is probably why they havent gotten to her yet. If you carefully examine Beths and Priscillas events over the last several years, youll see that they headline plenty of events that are wide open to both men and women. Now to Him who, in exercise of His power that is at work within us, is able to do infinitely beyond all our highest prayers or thoughts-- World English Bible Now to him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us, Young's Literal Translation There CAN be women from different denominations there, what is so wrong with that? It is a sad irony that Priscilla Shirer opted to name her ministry Going Beyond, because this is exactly what she is choosing to do right now. Let us look at it from a mindset point of view. on her, one of them probably will. Silly me! Like you, I also dont understand why believers behave the way they do- taking to task those who stand firmly upon the truth of Gods word instead of rebuking and rejecting false teachers such as Priscilla Shirer, when this is so clearly what Scripture says to do. #4b- this is supposition on your part. Yes, thats correct. Copyright 2003-2023 | Outreach, Inc., All rights reserved. Our ladies Bible study is just about to start a Priscilla Shirer study and I was doing some research on Priscilla and found your blog (whew! I have applied all these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, brothers, that you may learn by us not to go beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up in favor of one against another. INTRODUCTION: I think I dont think I feel If youre a Christian, what you think, feel, believe, say, and do is supposed to be governed by Scripture. Jesus taught us the way He wanted us to pray. If youre in need of suggestions of doctrinally sound blogs for women, go to the top of this page and click on Recommended Bible Teachers. Ive got two lists of 10 up there, and another one coming in the near future. rather than on the Bible. Scroll up to the top of the page and click on the Recommended Bible Teachers tab. Part 11 - Matthew 9:32-38 - THAT'S WHEN MIRACLES HAPPEN! #1- Thank you so much for letting me know that link was broken. Remember, Scripture, not our ideas and opinions are what we must follow and obey. If anyone has more info. But growth to spiritual maturity through the study of Gods word and faithful obedience to Him isnt what Priscilla is offering through this study. Hi Lisa- I think the articles in my Rock Your Role series will help answer your questions and give you a biblical understanding of womens roles in the church. The sweet missionary who taught us wide-eyed teenagers has since passed into Heaven. I have provided you video and audio evidence that Priscilla Shirer has done exactly that, and continues to do so unrepentantly. INTRODUCTION Thank you MIchelle Lesley. Elizabeth. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. but i will look to the word of God , and i will talk to my pastor. #3- There are a couple of links in the additional resources section that deal with Priscillas teaching of contemplative prayer, but I really should have included one in the paragraph itself, so Ive fixed that. 15 Outstanding Quotes To Recharge Your Preaching. - Femina Sola Gratia Is she a false teacher? This is a very good reason not to sit under their teaching. Ann Voskamp, Beth Moore, Jen Hatmaker, Jennie Allen, From: Choose What is Right: A Study in Discernment- Lesson 1: Introduction. Paul's Apostolic Authority 14 We are not overstepping our bounds, as if we had not come to you. No mention of sitting in silence or listening here nor in any of the other passages in which the Bible teaches about prayer. Thats a long sentence!). 1. Jeremiah 24:7. Until that time, however, it saddens me to have to recommend that Christian women not follow Priscilla Shirer or any materials or activities from Going Beyond Ministries for the following reasons: Priscilla unrepentantly preaches to and instructs men in the Scriptures in violation of 1 Timothy 2:12-14(as well as other passages of Scripture that do not allow this). Yes, hope is needed, and no youre not going to find it on the news, but youre not going to find true hope in Beth Moore or Priscilla Shirer, either, because not only can you not find hope in bad news (like the TV news) but you cant find hope in false news either, and thats what they teach. She begins most lessons with a story or personal experience, uses these stories to formulate her own spiritual principles, and then adds in a smattering of Bible verses (often out of context) to support her ideas. If thats not you, no need to read further, and I apologize in for any offense. Also, if you will read the article hyperlinked at the very top of this article, right underneath the title, where it says, If youre considering commenting it will answer your objections- with Scripture. Wolters begins with the shrewd observation that the four authors understand what moving beyond the Bible to theology means in at least four overlapping but distinguishable ways: (1) bringing the authority of Scripture to bear on issues that Scripture itself does not directly address (e.g., in contemporary bioethics); (2) dealing with ethically . If you believe women shouldnt work, this includes you. Heres why: 1. Likewise I will not listen to Beth or Priscilla despite the fact that they are both Southern Baptist {as am I} because they teach false doctrine. I have to admit that I do not know the entire Biblical passage on this, As Christians, the Bible is our authority, so its what the Bible says that matters, and thats what I point women to. If youve poked around the blog a bit, you might have noticed that we just started a new Wednesday Bible study on the book of Colossians. i listen to Dr. Tony Evans and i love to hear him preach, he is a good pastor and knows the word of God, so i do not understand why all this negativity about his daughter, i agree with the bible about women being pastors, and she is not a pastor according to how much i know about her( i only know about her from war room). 2And Abraham said unto his eldest servant of his house, that ruled over all that he had, Put, I pray thee, thy hand under my thigh: Even if shes twisted. But you have fired a shot across the bow and Im hoping that you will have the courage to further clarify your stand against a sister. Besides the short paragraph you provided on Lisa Harper in the list of other not-recommended teachers, do you have or know of any other good info/reviews on her? Then why did you ask me any questions? Being a person of great influence and wealth, he had demanded that he be given a place in the group because he wanted to "perform" before Esther 4:16 fasting. 1 Peter 2:1 says: So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander. (This is where the video above ends. Priscilla partners and associates with false teachers such as Joyce Meyer, Christine Caine,Joel and Victoria Osteen, Beth Moore, and T.D. She is a false teacher, not because I say so, but because when you compare her teachings and behavior to Scripture, you will find them consistently in conflict with Scripture. It is teachers like Priscilla who want us to base our beliefs on our feelings and experiences, and that is not biblical. It means to trust that the Bible has all the answers and truths we need to live a holy and pleasing life before Godwe don't need anything beyond what God has provided for us in His Word (see 2 Peter 1:3 ). I thought parables were a kind of means to read yourself into scripture? You need milk, not solid food, for everyone who lives on milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, since he is a child. I also dislike how she makes a career of telling women not to have careers. It states our purpose to do only those things which are authorized by the Scripture. Neil Richardson has proposed that instead of getting back to the Bible we should go forward with the Bible. But go and learn what this means: 'I desire mercy, not . AT THE GOING BEYOND SIMULCAST, YOU CAN EXPECT: Bible teaching from best-selling author Priscilla Shirer To gain tools to study Scripture on your own To engage in worship led by Anthony Evans A powerful group prayer experience The opportunity to make an impact by partnering with a ministry In Acts 17:11, the Bereans are praised for comparing everything Paul said to Scripture to see if it was true. #4b believers from different denominations Priscilla references who rattled her theological box may have been part of Priscillas initial exposure to false Word of Faith teaching and false teachers such as the aforementioned Meyer, Caine and Osteens. Since you havent had a chance to question Priscilla about what she was talking about here (or maybe it was revealed in this Bible study? With regard to books, Bible studies, even blogs like mine, I completely agree with you! Introduction to Beyond Sunday Series: There are two ways in which living in Christ helps us live beyond our fears: knowing that He is completely trustworthy, and doing as He calls us to do. Also, if you had read the paragraph at the very top of this article and clicked on please click here and read this article first, your initial question in this comment (about sin) would have been answered. The original promo video I used for this article has been deleted, {so I replaced it with the one above}, but in the original video, Priscilla goes on to say) Thats one in a million. She sounds really nice and charismatic and thats about it but my spirit doesnt bear witness with her. ), but 2 Corinthians 6:14ff and 2 John 9-11, among other passages, are very clear that we are not to partner with those who teach false doctrine, which Catholicism, Word of Faith, and many other churches do. 1And Abraham was old, and well stricken in age: and the Lord had blessed Abraham in all things. The Mailbag: Is It OK for Christian Women to Wear Bikinis? on that if youre interested. I've done this so that you can learn what it means not to go beyond what has been written and so none of you will become arrogant by supporting one of us against the other. So we both have been grateful ever sense, me personally because; as her husband she is my most important ministry, so besides Church, we do studies both together and private, and then share them with one another, we also pray together and so on, but i know (because i have learned, and it is also true of men) sometimes women need women.(Titus.2:3-4). Do you have another links to her preaching or instructing men in the Scriptures? One thats not a promotional tape? After the service, people went by the preacher, tired and exhausted. Thats why I said may have been. Whether that particular moment in time was, in fact, the moment that Priscilla was introduced to false doctrine and false teachers can be debated, but the fact of the matter is that she came under the influence of false teachers at some point and still unequally yokes herself to them and teaches false doctrine today. If you dont trust the evidence Ive presented here, I encourage you to do your own research. Im not seeing anyone speaking against her except small sources. Opening Prayer. But read her He Speaks to Me Bible study for yourself if you want to assess. Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Verse 13. Pray With Us Jan 12, 2023 Hi Friends! 2. 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