The missing link scientists are looking for I believe would be in reverse. The sons and daughters of Adam and Eve come AFTER Seth. The remainder of this story is, in fact, in keeping with what God told Adam and Eve, be fruitful and multiply (Gen 1:28), and the fact that God IS the same TODAY, YESTERDAY, AND TOMORROW. There was nothing wrong with brother and sister marriages, originally. When Cain went into the land of Nod and took a wife, he married a Gentile, of which there were many in the land outside of Eden. What exactly do you see as different between your preadamites and Adamites? Homo sapiens sapiens (we humans) have been around for about 100,000 years. Required fields are marked *. While Gen. 1:26/27-31 encounters from the origin and reproduction of the entire human race during the sixth day in its two sexes (hebr. Afterall, Cain went to hell and appeared within the body of Anneliese Michel. This argument is seemingly bolstered by Hebrews 11:4, which called Abel's sacrifice a "more excellent sacrifice" that could be referring to quality. There is no Biblical, exegetical, case for separating the male and female in Genesis one from Adam and Eve in Genesis two. This was not breath after birth, for the Bible refers to humans as alive in the womb (Genesis 25:26; Hosea 12:3). Adam and Eve arise in a completely different way than the humans of the 6. In the first statement you propose evolution which, like the last statement uses natural reproduction. Was Cain even the first born? Candice Luceylives with her husband and daughters in (mostly) tranquil Salmon Arm, BC, Canada. Abraham wasnt a jew, etcetcThe jews are one tribe To go outside these parameters is confessing you do not believe the account of creation as stated in Genesis. Hello i want to know what language used by adam and eve? Angels taking on human form and humans was a bad and evil combo. XIV, 1, 7-9, In Rabbi Rashis commentary on Genesis, Bk, 1, he says that Adam and Eve are the same people as those in Genesis one. I think it is obvious, that there were humans (so-called preadamites) before Adam and Eve. By modern legal definition, Cain would have had to commit incest with one of his sisters in order to create offspring because he had no other choice. I live to climb that mountain CAIN AND HIS DESCENDANTS. A human cant live over 900 years, thats obviously impossible. Regards. So the real problem is that too few people want to read the bible and believe it literally. In the creation Report, that is not the case. This unique marital state once graced the world and, as proposed above, continued to the time of Abraham, after which it ended. Speaking to all of us from the cross through the repentant thief Jesus promised, Today, you will be with me in Paradise. The idea that Cain married his sister flies in the face of modern practice plus the Mosaic law. In English this is usually translated with the pluperfect all CAME from the dust. This is a past action pointing to their origination (Genesis 2:7, 19). Somehow Moses knew what the land looked like at least 16,000 years before he was born. 4 But when our father Adam saw them around him, he wept at having to be Thats because there is no logical answer. (Genesis 2:21-22) The Lord made only two people, so the only people available for Adam and Eves sons to marry were their own sisters. You have simply read that into the text. The KJV says it correctly: Gen 3:20, And Adam called his wifes name Eve; because she was the mother of all living. Problem solved. As marriage in the Bible specifies one man for one woman for life, this means Christians have to be able to explain how Adam and Eves sons could marry and have children to propagate the human race. God had to destroy them all!! This goes to the heart of some of the misunderstandings about who Adam and his line was. Made from dust, not inside Eden, but outside and before Eden (yep, thats right. Here is your ticket to join us as we discover more and more about the biblical world and its people. So we should heed Pauls counsel to Timothy (1 Tim 6:3-5) do not be teachers of things contrary to the Christ. She is not above physical confrontation, is very charming, and amicable, as well as possessing a very cheeky sense of humor. That is why we find so much evidence after about 12,000 years ago, but that is not when it all started, nor do we know how widespread it was. (The number 8 always means New Beginnings.) Maybe. This left the area as a lush oasis surrounded by dryer regions. Adam and Eve. CHILDREN OF THIS TIME ARE TOO CURIOUSE. Quick Facts British Celebrities Born In August Also Known As: Robert Anthony Plant Age: 74 Years, 74 Year Old Males Family: Spouse/Ex-: Maureen Wilson (m. 1968-1983) father: Robert C. Plant mother: Annie Cain Plant siblings: Allison Plant children: Carmen Jane Plant, Jesse Lee Plant, Karac Pendragon Plant, Logan Romero Plant Born Country: England It is recorded in Genesis 3:20, And Adam called his wifes name Eve; because she was the mother of all living. Thus all human beings are descendants of the first woman, Eve. Are there other people outside of Eden? The creation days are long periods of time and we are still in the 7th day (Hebrews 4; John 5:16-17). Thats why he must be born again/born from above. The only possible answer is that Cain's wife was his sister or niece or great-niece, etc. This is strictly the history of the Jew. The answer is its impossible. Instead of loving his Abel, he did the opposite and brutally murdered his brother. If this is a biblical question then use biblical answers. If every account were to be written, the Bible could be so big the world couldnt contain it. Report The pre-flood earth atmosphere shielded better against cosmic radiation permitting less genetic erosion and much longer lives. That is the evolutionary interpretation of the Adam of the Y Chromosome. It could very well refer to the Biblical Adam. Date of Birth. The earliest and perhaps most natural answer we find in the second century B.C.E. This is exactly what your local weatherman does every day. There were def other for the lack of a better term, people on the earth then besides Adam eve Cain and Abel. The theory based on other people living outside the creation of God is totally false. There was no Hebrew word for ball/sphere, not even dur. Look at how long everyone lived. Where did all these people in Nod come from if Adam and Eve are the original people created? The bible cosmology also clearly teaches a flat earth and any reading of scripture that is the least bit consistent and attempts to keep to a literal biblical cosmology in the early chapters of Genesis must surely keep to a flat earth which is present from Genesis to Revelation. Almost every day some People experienced the events of this story. In the beginning, however, there would not be the usual genetic defects arising from intermarriage because Adam and Eve were created perfect with a perfect gene pool, Slicksaid. Thats right, so forget about all the creationistic crap about kosher genes and sibling incest and make friends with unholy preadamites, coadamites and wicked evolution (Gen. 2:4)! out of 12 whom the jews have managed to deceive the entire Some points to consider on CAINS WIFE. There were no other womenjust one woman, Eve. It rather depends on whether you believe that all adamic people descend literally from a single Adam-man and an Eve-woman, or whether those two are part of an allegorical story where they are metaphors for the created Adamic race as a whole. Gen 3:20 Adam named his wife Eve because she would be the mother of all who live The issue is that there was things lost in translation from Samarian to the Hebrew, and then even more lost or changed out right from Greek to Latin in the roman style to take control of a religion in a region they have concurred. We are discussing the phrase, not just a single word. Has anyone considered that when it is said that Adam sought for a help meet among the animals, he may have gone into animals. Lastly, we find zakar and neqebah and ish and ishsha are used interchangeably for the individual mating pairs which entered the ark. Read your Bible again). Not only possible, but highly propable, because only children were unusually in those days (5500 years b. C.). Mervyn. I strongly believe Cain already had a wife with him before getting into Nod. Some/much of Genesis falls into this categoryYou guys that want to read it ALL as a literal history/science book, more power to you. This tale is truly not truthful but a Jewish fable. Now, I can apply these meanings to my life and understand the differences. The genealogy numbers reveal a rough timeframe, but you cant elongate that to 100,000 years. This article implies, perhaps states, that Adam and Eve were not the first or only people created by a special act of God. Therefore, there is no reason to assume they the words refer to different humans in chapters one and two. With the help of the biblical Genealogie, Adam and Eve can be dated 5500 b. C., the middle of Neolithic period. Consider the post Darwinian age. On the science side: Luke 3:36 tells us of a Cainan which Genesis 11 leaves out. In Hebrew, dm is even more often understood as mankind than as a male name. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/06/090624-bone-flute-oldest-instrument.html For example, Moses skips generations in his own genealogy. This very example sufficiently shows, how much the proponents of the traditional exegesis have to bend the biblical texts to continue harping on their string. If so, you might want to check out Genesis 1:2 which uses a waw disjunctive. The Bible doesnt say he was, it just mentions him first. The 13th century work of Jewish mysticism, the Book of Zohar, contains theories based on the philosophical doctrine of the soul that often contradict one another. Radio carbon studies can tell alot also. Page | 11 Only two of the four now exist. This is an obvious question to anyone who looks at the Bible with non-fundamentalist open eyes. It is meaningless and typical of people that think they are educated and now think they can question the Bible. Wake up. Anyway its much more complicated than this, but these are the basics as to what my studies have found, while studying under the influence of the Holy Spirit. Miss Weith: 4. The girls got their father drunk and had sex with him (Genesis 19:33-35). People are required to tithe even though the Holy Bible came out thousands of years before paper currency. As long as Adam and Eve were alive, does anyone really believe that Cain, Abel and Seth were their only children? Cain married of of his elder brothers daughter. This story was ancient before the Israelites even went into captivity. Posted on September 17, 2021 by 0 Comments September 17, 2021 by 0 Comments Suggesting there were other people groups implies the reason for the suffering and death is not mans sin. It isnt the point who tought a flat earth. The residents (his own brothers and sisters and their children) might have avenged their brother/uncle/cousin The logical conclusion is that Cain married one of his sisters and until a prophet of God comes along and tells us otherwise that is what we should accept. First of all, it is vitally important for the Christian to be able to answer this question, as it relates to defending the fact that all humans are descendants of Adam and Eve; and, secondly, that it is only their descendants that can be saved. Army 1SG, firefighter, consultant (CFPS) - retired from all. Why do we want to create or write our own bible?The bible clearly states his wife came from the land of Nod. What are you saying about the relationship of Adam and Cain. Apparently not if you read Adam & Eve Only Once available on Amazon based on biblical evidence it now seems there is completely new way of looking at the Book Of Genesis: It is proposed in the series of pamphlets that make up this book (there are eight in all) that the special manner in which God created Eve from the side of Adam (as described in chapter two of the Book of Genesis) continued for a number of other blessed couples up to the time of Abraham, at which time it ended. This has been directly tested for sheep, horses, etc. These are interesting theories to text. Now how old was cain and Able at the time of the incidence? How many twins did Adam and Eve have? He predicts the Flood. I dont know if it has already been mentioned here, but Gen. 1:26/27 and 2:7 are two different events. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob married their own relatives so as to avoid intermarrying non-believers. Youre adding and detracting from the Bible. If you read Genesis Chapter 1 verse 26 It says Let us make man in our image, after our likeness & have Dominion over..Etc. No! But Cain is bad; he does not love his brother. Cain, the firstborn, was a farmer, and his brother Abel was a shepherd.The brothers made sacrifices to God, but God favored Abel's sacrifice instead of Cain's.Cain then murdered Abel, whereupon God punished Cain by condemning him to a life of wandering. The terrestrial animals werent created, too, but emerged (another yatsar) from the sea (where living souls were located recently) and were prepared (asah). The verse actually by omission gives no implication that it is a proof text for what you claim it means. Pretend everything you have ever been told from anyone the media, your parents, your church, history books, the bible pretend EVERYTHING is all a lie and then research the truth on your own and come to a conclusion based on what YOU YOURSELF conclude. That is the context. There already has been an exegetical separarion between the preadamites and Adam long before someone mentioned the word evolution at all. From the bibles explanation, Cain knew his wife and had a son means that Cain slept with his wife and had a son. Cain and Abel were twins. That is NOT in 1 Enoch, which is the third most frequent manuscript discovered among the Dead Sea Scrolls. Check out Who Was Adam? by Dr. Rana. The regulations of the Law of Moses were binding only upon those to whom it was given at the time, according to the Christian Courier. Of course, Gen. 2.7 is in the womb too. By the time of Abraham, his birthplace, the advanced city of Ur in Chaldea, was a river port. Again, Genesis 5:1-3 shows us that Adam of Genesis two is the male of Genesis one. Genesis 1 mentions the emergence of the mammals on the 6th day following the demise of the dinosaurs (who are none other than the dragons of the 5th day mentioned in Genesis 1:21). Did you read the quotes from Jesus (God in the flesh)? WHERE HE DWELT AFTER LEAVING GODS PRESENCE WAS NAMED AFTER HIM, THE LAND OF WANDERER. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_man_of_the_Hohlenstein_Stadel He murdered Abel and was banished by the Lord from the settled country. the Bible doesnt give us the information of it because its God minded not to reveal the secret. Here is the answer, Cain and Abel were not the first children of our first parents, that is Adam and Eve. day of creation at best. People like myself love and are fascinated by TNaKh and that is why we want to truly understand it using the best of modern science, literary analysis, history and of course archaeology. According to the Bible, Adam and Eve had three sons: Cain, Abel, Seth and additional sons and daughters. Sign up to receive our email newsletter and never miss an update. TDH, another thing. That would imply that there was something God couldnt do, wrong. The story was about Cain and Abel, and it is only said they were children of Adam and Eve. Yes, I do believe Adam and Eve had more children. And then the created erets translated as Earth. They clearly saw this in tombs. It is the instinctive power of feeling and action needed to sustain the body (Essential Papers on Kabbalah, by Lawrence Fine, p.120). Scientists look everywhere but up or where they should. But if Adam and Eve his parents were the only ones left besides Cain (Abel was dead, remember), did he fear his parents then? Melissa "Missy" Cooper is Sheldon's fraternal younger twin sister. In Genesis 1:24, God orders the earth (in Hebrew Aretz) to produce living creatures of all kind and with a careful reading we can understand that it includes also human being. Therefore, technically ALL of Adams progeny was always outside the garden only Adam and Eve had ever been in the garden of Eden. So, why would they not accept that Adam was originally created from dust? [6] In 1945, the misconception was listed by the Historical Association (of Britain) as the second of 20 in a pamphlet on common errors in history. Adam and Eve are just descendants of the preadamites, and the Gods image of those prehistoric man cant hide fact that they descend from the terrestrial animals, with them they have been created as the same day (actually a VERY long Periode, like the others. If you truly believe God made all then you should believe that we as humans have no place trying to improve his creations or trying to make a profit from creating things he cannot. When you think of celebrity twins, famous duos like Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen or Tegan and Sara Quin might come to mind. Treasures. His wife was human. Furthermore, recent studies, such as one published in the Journal of Genetic Counseling, show that unions between first cousins face lower risks of having children with birth defects than is widely perceived. The world of the Bible is knowable. to the fountain of Lamneth. SO THERE WAS NOTHING LIKE PREADAMIC. AP. Not as a spesific person, but as a lot as men and women in plural. If God wanted us to know. Adam& Eve Only Once. (4) God set up a sign to protect Cain, indicating that either his siblings or other relatives might try to kill him. See also (Genesis 6:17, 7:15, etc.). I firmly believe that there were no actual individuals named Adam or Eve that were the beginnings of the human or Hebrew race. It doesnt become truer thereby. So he is got got married to one of his sister. The book of Genesis mentions three of Adam and Eve's children: Cain, Abel and Seth. What happened to the other created couples in the garden after the original Adam and Eve, and are they recognizable characters or prophets in the bible? Asa and banah refer to the action of building an object, by definition, out of existing material. What Is the Significance of Not the Letter but of the Spirit? Fully-functioning beings, now blessed with intellect and wisdom by one, connected via marriage to emotion and love, means we certainly do have the first family. Thank you for considering my point of view. NO NEED TO BOTHER YOUR HEAD. Did Adam and eve acceptted, to give their daughter to Cain? I hate it when people try and think they know better than the Bible. All four came together in what is now the middle of the Persian Gulf. Mesopotamian creation myths, Josephs relationship with Egyptian temple practices and 3 tales of Ur, the birthplace of Abraham. Cain married his sister. That was the key relationship between them, not their kinship. There were likely other beings around maybe not descendants of Mito Eve & Y Adam whose dynasties long ago died out. Cains blood line ever completely ended. The answer of course is no. Cain is a mythical figure. They had far too much wisdom and far too much power to be in control of Gods Planet. fear lest the enemy overcome thee. In the Flood Report, its pointed out, that Its about two individuals of each kind. So, God built a body out of dust and had to breathe life into it. Once, when she was denied a rental car in . You dont know the scriptures nor do you know the power of God. Who else would he have married ? In 2 Cor 15:22/45 Paul makes it clear that Jesus came as no.2 as the second Adam. Yet a careful analysis of Genesis reveals that the matters presented there are far from clear. In Muslim tradition, Cain was born with a twin sister who was named Aclima, and Abel with a twin sister named Jumella. Except for other children of Adam and Eve. This seems to be a reference to the Jehovas Witness Bible. We can only wonder how many female children they had. EVE WOULD HAVE DAUGHTERS FROM WHOM CAIN AND SETH MARRIED. Its social control. But Im optimistic that their doctrine will fizzle out gradually. Even a venerable delusion stays a delusion. Just smile a lot and get something to eat. 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