GROSS: So Geena Davis, I have a few questions for you about your career. MARTIN: Every person that Ive spoken with who have seen the film is just shocked by it. GROSS: Prevent that kind of behavior. So I knew that we could invoke that law to be able to change things in a very significant way. He was the photographer for "Soul Train" and took photos for Jet, Ebony and the black-owned LA newspaper Soul. JOIN NOW. GROSS: What did you like about archery? I didn't want to try any sports because I was - I call it physically shy. . GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. And for me, the word feminist was a bad word in my house. GROSS: If you're just joining us, my guests are both featured in the new documentary "This Changes Everything" about discrimination against women in Hollywood. Now they were saying, oh, I have to tell you what I thought about this movie, and this is how many times I saw it. GROSS: came into play here, too, because there's more of you for Dustin Hoffman to be fazed by when he walks in. And - but nobody, and least of all him, nobody ever said, you realize you don't have to come every day? And I started to do research. . Kleins sharp analysis makes a compelling case that a mass awakening is part of the answer., Gripping and dramatic . We dont have to wait for things to turn around in real life. So do you have any idea where things stand? I did get work, and it was through my model agency that I got my first acting job. Since then it has been shown 1000s of times in community screenings around the world. GROSS: So the Geena Davis Institute on Gender in Media has done a lot of research on the numbers. You were attached to other projects. This Changes Everything takes an incisive look into the male-dominated film industry to examine those forces - both conscious and unconscious - that continue to foster the systemic underrepresentation and misrepresentation of women. And I think thats but also part of it is that my peers and I felt like you cannot complain about any of this because they wont hire you. NPR transcripts are created on a rush deadline by an NPR contractor. DAVIS: Well, I was astounded that it happened. Variety: Geena Davis Talks This Changes Everything Doc and Conscious Gender Bias in Behind-the-Scenes Hiring, Good Deed Entertainment: This Changes Everything (2019) Exclusive Interview with Geena Davis & Director Tom Donahue, PBS SoCal: Interview with Geena Davis and Tom Donahue on This Changes Everything, Deadline: This Changes Everything Review: Compelling Documentary Tackles Hollywood Gender Inequality Head-On, The New York Times: This Changes Everything Review: Hollywoods Men, Called to Action. Buy now. Its an alarm that calls us to fix an economic system that is already failing us in many ways. Greek Netflix | Apple TV | Amazon Video | Vudu | FandangoNOW | Kanopy | Hoopla, Directed by: Tom Donahue This is the 21st century. And I think the first thing to change will be on screen. Greek LA Times. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. An investigative look and analysis of gender disparity in Hollywood, featuring accounts from well-known actors, executives and artists in the Industry. DAVIS: It did well. PBS is a 501(c)(3) not-for-profit organization. Maria Giese is a director who felt shut out of directing because she's a woman. She exposes the ideological desperation of the climate-change deniers, the messianic delusions of the would-be geoengineers, and the tragic defeatism of too many mainstream green initiatives. Russian I'm Terry Gross. Director Tom Donahue Stars Reese Witherspoon Mira Nair This Changes Everything. GROSS: So the EEOC has been conducting an investigation into systemic discrimination against women directors. DONAHUE: But also, Reese Witherspoon says in the film that sometimes she would go on set and it would be 115 men and she would be the only woman. GROSS: Well, what was wrong with that plan? Also with us is director Maria Giese, who's featured in the film, too. We also heard from director Maria Giese, who's also featured in the film "This Changes Everything." About the author. You putting men in charge basically driving women and people of color out. GROSS: A battle with yourself to not battle with yourself. The extraordinary detail and richness of the cinematography inThis Changes Everythingprovides an epic canvas for this exploration of the greatest challenge of our time. You hear so many women speaking up when they encounter injustice and openly talking about it. So they were driven out of the unions. And but I just assumed kids media would be gender-balanced, and wholesome, and good for you, and all that. Oh, no, we can't. . A group of disillusioned young women have disappeared. From left, Joelle Dobrow, Nell Cox, Susan Nimoy, Dolores Ferraro, Lynne Littman and Victoria Hochberg in 1980. Can you talk about that? DONAHUE: Hopefully not. So what impact do you think it had both on audiences but also on Hollywood? This Changes Everything Official trailer Did we miss something on diversity? And I could see that I was not going to make any headway with them. The documentary This Changes Everything gives audiences a look at how the tropes of "the girlfriend," the "useless chick," and the beauty who needs to "be saved" are still alive and well. Produced with New Plot Films in association with the Geena Davis Institute on Gender in Media, David Yurman, and . Kleins urgency and outrage is balanced by meticulous documentation and passionate argument. In October, at a special ceremony, she'll receive an honorary Oscar, the Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award. . LANDGRAF: The minute we open our door and we say, come express it here, the work got better. Its the lowest hanging fruit possible. But so I think that will change and I think it will impact society, that life will imitate art. And a little by little, I introduced them to a group of my female colleagues. An investigative look and analysis of gender disparity in Hollywood, featuring accounts from well-known actors, executives and artists in the Industry.An investigative look and analysis of gender disparity in Hollywood, featuring accounts from well-known actors, executives and artists in the Industry.An investigative look and analysis of gender disparity in Hollywood, featuring accounts from well-known actors, executives and artists in the Industry. Watch This Changes Everything: Men Don't See Us Women Equal. . A look at seven communities around the world with the proposition that we can seize the crisis of climate change to transform our failed economic system into something radically better. But we were stunned at the reaction that was instant - cover of Time magazine and all that stuff. And womens films do make more money and have, I think, over the last three years. . DAVIS: Well, so my character - they told me from the beginning - was a former showgirl who, when she was getting too old to do that, went into management and was able to create a successful career for herself that way. And I was horrified. Dutch They're both featured in the new documentary about that campaign called "This Changes Everything.". We have been told its impossible to get off fossil fuels when in fact we know exactly how to do itit just requires breaking every rule in the free-market playbook: reining in corporate power, rebuilding local economies, and reclaiming our democracies. Bulgarian SANDRA OH: Shonda was able to make half of her cast not white. It takes an incisive look at the history, empirical evidence, and systemic forces that foster gender discrimination and thus reinforce disparity in our culture. I get to be a doctor. And then maybe five years later, another movie comes out with a female star. She's best known for her starring roles in "Thelma & Louise," "A League Of Their Own," and "Beetlejuice." What happened was when I was in Thelma & Louise, after Thelma & Louise came out, a lot of the press was talking about, this is going to change everything. And I was like, you know, I was a huge fan of "GLOW" and very much wanted to do it. Visit our website terms of use and permissions pages at www.npr.org for further information. GROSS: But you're in your underwear. And I'd like to see if I could do that. He said no, that's the whole point is competing. There are going to be so many more movies with women starring and everything. Transcript A new documentary explores how women in Hollywood are pushing for more representation in front of and behind the camera. My understanding is they don't make their investigation public. Theyll just get somebody else. She starts her own organization, the Geena Davis Institute, on gender in media to keep track of the imbalance. The feature documentary, This Changes Everything, narrated by Naomi and directed by Avi Lewis,premiered at the 2015 Toronto International Film Festival, presented by Oscar Winning Director Alfonso Cuarn, and executive producers Seth Macfarlane, Shepard Fairey, and Danny Glover. Once it finally begins to focus on the mission, however, This Changes Everything not only becomes engrossing but reveals itself as a crucial cri de coeur. Klein and Lewis paint a picture of a post-fossil-fueled, post-capitalist future that seems not only within reach, Go behind the scenes of Netflix TV shows and movies, see what's coming soon and watch bonus videos on. This was my plan (laughter). . Although a large part of this documentary focuses on the fact that female directors do not get work and have trouble getting hired, and the director of this film. Against the backdrop of Greece in crisis, a powerful social movement rises. Because the next movie somebody makes could be gender-balanced. GROSS: Geena Davis is featured in and is an executive producer of the new documentary "This Changes Everything," about the campaign for better representation of women in front of and behind the camera in movies and TV. Turkish Portuguese So they looked east to the banks to basically the patriarchal systems in the east and so they created the studio system in the west. And if you're just joining us, my guest is actor Geena Davis and director Maria Giese. A work of startling force, exhaustive reporting, and telling anecdote . DONAHUE: Sure. MARTIN: You make the connection in the film that its not just about, you know, the job, its the conditions at the job, that it is directly connected to these vicious examples of sexual harassment and abuse that women have experienced that have now come to the fore. So let me just play that clip. And your role is as the entertainment director of a casino. MARTIN: So you can see it with kids entertainment? DAVIS: Well, you know, we found that for every two speaking male characters, there's one female speaking character, and that there's an appalling amount of hypersexualization of female characters, even in G-rated movies, and the female characters are very often narrowly stereotyped, hypersexualized or not really integral to the plot. This documentary takes a deep look at gender disparity in Hollywood through the eyes of well-known actresses and female filmmakers. In the course of this struggle, they help ignite a nationwide movement. So I decided I wanted to take up a sport in the real-life way and not the movie version. MORETZ: The biggest part of the movie is when she gets her period for the first time in the shower. No, I didn't think, oh, it's me, at all. 2019 | Maturity Rating: 13+ | 1h 35m | Documentary Films. And Im like, yay, I cant wait. DAVIS: Well, it did in a way. It was once there was a four in front of my age, and DAVIS: You know, I had heard about that for a long time, that people said that things change when you turn 40 or when you're in your 40s, but I didn't expect it to be literal. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You directed an episode of it. Spanish UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is nothing funny here. And so I thought, this is an enormous problem if we are training kids from the beginning that girls are second-class citizens. Croatian Its not about carbonits about capitalism. . GROSS: Geena Davis, let me bring you back into the conversation. 2019 | Maturity Rating: TV-MA | 1h 35m | Documentary Films. You know, it was, like, an amazing introduction. But the documentary "This Changes Everything" synthesizes all that data along with interviews from a truly mind-boggling array of A-listers both in front of and behind the camera to create a damning portrait of Hollywood's systematic sexism and discrimination. MARTIN: So Geena, how do you stay in it though? And that was an extraordinary triumph. We havent made significant progress, Klein argues, because weve been expecting solutions from the very same institutions that created the problem in the first place . Its not a spoiler to say that the documentary concludes with a call to action aimed squarely at (predominantly male) studio heads, pointing to the recent commitment to inclusive hiring by John Landgraf, the chief executive of the FX Networks, as an example of what real action can look like. And in May 2015, The New York Times published the ACLU's 15-page letter to the EEOC and to other government agencies, calling for an industry-wide federal investigation into systemic discrimination against women directors. DONAHUE: Sure. Directed by Avi Lewis (AFI Festival award-winner The Take) and inspired by the New York Times-bestselling book by Naomi Klein, the feature documentary This Changes Everything will launch in 2015. Can we pull off these changes in time? I thought, this is incredibly unfair, and I don't want other people deciding that I have to work less, you know, and taking away opportunities. MARTIN: Why do you think that was the click moment for you? KIMBERLY PIERCE, DIRECTOR, CARRIE: I was being talked to and treated and questioned constantly and indifferently. So why does the behind the camera representation matter so much? Finnish And I had gone to Paris to do the collections, and in the meantime, Sydney Pollack saw my audition tape and said, hey, I like her. In fact, all around the world, the fight for the next economy and against reckless extraction is already succeeding in ways both surprising and inspiring. After we take a short break, we'll hear from photographer Bruce Talamon, whose photos of soul, funk and R&B stars of the '70s and early '80s are collected in a book. MARTIN: You know one of the things that really fascinated me about the film is that you point out it wasnt always this way. The coming of sound meant they needed big capital investment. And so it kind of made sense in that way. And it's a buddy movie. And very quickly, the coaches were saying, you know, you have a lot of untapped athletic ability. We were made to feel very dispensable. On TV, you have women like Shonda Rhimes, Ava DuVernay, who's also in movies, and Reese Witherspoon not only doing shows that have women in them but also - certainly with Ava DuVernay, she makes a point of hiring women directors and often women directors of color for her series "Queen Sugar." Female. Grieving the loss of a best friend she couldnt protect, an ex-bodyguard sets out to fulfill her dear friends last wish: sweet revenge. DONAHUE: They cant really complain to their agent or their manager because theyre just going to tell them just go with it, just be quiet. It will be on air. When you have 150 men on set and one woman, how is that woman protected? And I was so shocked when my coach said after just a few months, well, now you've got to start competing. When did things start to slow down in your acting career? Unions did not allow women because putting women in the unions meant lower pay and lower prestige. Bosnian But for the most part, I saw appalling gender imbalance. 10 Video Games That Need a Live Action Adaptation, 2023's Most Anticipated Sequels, Prequels, and Spin-offs. Im an optimist. MARTIN: Talk to me about the Geena Davis Institute which you founded years ago. I haven't really ever had to describe what it's about. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When I called to say we were going to greenlight it, the male executive on the other end of the line literally hung up on me. And this is a buddy movie that's a women's movie. Tweets by NaomiAKlein. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was very lucky because Greys Anatomy was developed under the network presence. And for a very brief time, the nature of that change is still up to us. I showed her, you know, G-rated videos and little kids movies and TV shows - and, you know, obviously, there's some exceptions to that. Even though Landgraf and several prominent men are interviewed, a title card notes that the studio heads the filmmakers reached out to declined to appear in the film. VarietyMagazine, If you care about justice you must see this. . And I'd be like, which part exactly? Naomi Klein - This Changes Everything.pdf (PDFy mirror) Publication date 2014-01-01 Topics mirror, pdf.yt Collection pdfymirrors; additional_collections Language English This public document was automatically mirrored from PDFy. You know, they just determined to do it, and they're very creative and they make it happen. . Why hasnt it changed before now? So thats why when it says 75 percent of women made this film, people actually clap at that line at the end. And, you know, being harassed and all kinds of things going on, being not listened to, talked down to, all that stuff. And then I saw it everywhere. This is FRESH AIR. It sets the most important crisis in human history in the context of our other ongoing traumas, reminding us just how much the powers-that-be depend on the power of coal, gas and oil. DAVIS: They do. I'm Terry Gross. They're both featured in the new documentary "This Changes Everything" about discrimination against women in front of and behind the camera in Hollywood. Accuracy and availability may vary. MICHEL MARTIN, CONTRIBUTOR: Geena Davis, Tom Donahue, thank you so much for talking to us. Was that because you thought that was the way you could break in? But it's profoundly not the case right now. So I learned about being a feminist through the activism of a man. DONAHUE: They tend to deny the problem after seeing the film. Written with an elegant blend of science, statistics, field reports and personal insight, it does not paralyze but buoys the reader. GROSS: The one with the feathers and DAVIS: The one with the feathers and rhinestones? This Changes Everything DOCUMENTARY Told first-hand by some of Hollywood's leading voices, This Changes Everything is a feature-length documentary that uncovers what is beneath what is one of the most confounding dilemmas in the entertainment industry- the under-representation and misrepresentation of women. It was night and day, where before, they might say, hey, "Beetlejuice" or something. DAVIS: Well, no, no. Michael Mann tells Christiane Amanpour why we need to rethink what we eat and how we produce it. And I got the part. And this is in every sector of society, its the same story. MARTIN: In fact, there is a clip in the film where you talk about the fact that representation in actually entertainment can actually matter in the real world. Spanish And a buddy movies are always men's movies. I mean dont you just want to throw your shoes at the screen? Ukrainian. Heart and mind go hand in hand in this magisterial response to a present crisis., We lack the collective spaces in which to confront the raw terror of ecocide, is how Klein encapsulates the problem. [1] An examination of sexism in the Hollywood film industry, the film interviews a variety of actresses and women filmmakers on their experiences in the industry. Did you think of it as there not being enough roles for women in their 40s? Production companies: CreativeChaos vmg, New Plot Films, US Release 2019. MARTIN: Do you think its because your initial focus was on kids television? Naomi Kleins This Changes Everything is a ground-breaking work on how climate change changes everything. GROSS: So did being a model for Victoria's Secret lead to having this part where you're in your underwear in the dressing room? DAVIS: Absolutely, which is fantastic. GROSS: So what about other women you knew from film school? Chinese Simple DAVIS: I think partly, back when I started, I wasnt thinking about that, even. GROSS: In "A League Of Their Own." So I thats when I learned about the work of Geena in her institute and how important onscreen representation was. So I started making this movie. (Interestingly, the film was directed by a man, Tom Donahue. Lithuanian So I had a lot of training. By what name was This Changes Everything (2018) officially released in India in English? GROSS: Geena Davis, Maria Giese, thank you both so much for talking with us. Swedish Hosting a Screening (note that licensing and contact info in this document are out of date / no longer active) Faith screening guide. From Thelma & Louise to A League of Their Own, the Oscar-winning actress Geena Davis made her name with her strong female characters. I always say go through the script and change it. Kleinexposes the myths that are clouding the climate debate. This sudden change in how people reacted when they recognized me was very, very pronounced. DAVIS: Not at all. Klein argues that the changes to our relationship with nature and one another that are required to respond to the climate crisis humanely should not be viewed as grim penance, but rather as a kind of gifta catalyst to transform broken economic and cultural priorities and to heal long-festering historical wounds. And I couldn't get the numbers on women in commercials, which is the most lucrative category of directing, but I spoke to some big executives in the commercial world who told me that the number was less than 1%. So it was all very shocking and great because what it really - well, first of all, I'll tell you how it affected me. Here it is. Its always been that way. but like a place where we actually want to live It really started for me at the end of 2014 with the Sony hack and finding out about the disparity in pay between Jennifer Lawrence and Bradley Cooper in American Hustle. And I just want an excuse to be able to do that (laughter). Forget everything you think you know about global warming. She had to fight really hard to get them to put it on the air. She's featured in the movie and as an executive producer of the film. Throughout the film, Klein builds to her most controversial and exciting idea: that we can seize the existential crisis of climate change to transform our failed economic system into something radically better. Bulgarian We have also been told that humanity is too greedy and selfish to rise to this challenge. Watch all you want. Polish Croatian Russian Several women serve as executive producers, including Davis.). . . As defeated as one feels when you dont see a change happening, I really do think that it can and that it will. This documentary takes a deep look at gender disparity in Hollywood through the eyes of well-known actresses and female filmmakers. And, of course, it's all a joke. Recorded by CBC Ideasafter the historic December 2015 Paris Climate meeting, in this lecture, Naomi analyzed the failures of that Agreement and discussed ways to move forward from it. Theres a lot of talk about change and theres a lot more content being made but a lot of the diversity that happens in content is happening at the lower pay levels. Maleeha Lodhi joins the program to explain tensions between Pakistan and India. And then Susan Sarandon comes out. I - my daughter was a toddler, and I decided she was old enough to start watching preschool shows. And there is also no human resources department that these women can go to. GROSS: And I just think it's so interesting that we're having this conversation about women's empowerment and inclusion of women, and the first part of your career revolves around being in your underwear (laughter). Also was named Observer Book of the Year and a New York Times Book Review 100 Notable Books of the Year and Margaret Atwood chose it for The Guardians Best Books of 2014 list. We have been told the market will save us, when in fact the addiction to profit and growth is digging us in deeper every day. And she's been dedicated to equality for women, more roles for women in Hollywood. I decided that I would try becoming a model first because, at that time, Christie Brinkley and Lauren Hutton were being offered parts in movies. Author interview. Tom Donahue's documentary 'This Changes Everything' examines efforts from within Hollywood to redress the gender imbalance and features a large roster of big-name interviewees, from Anita Hill. So I began to think, you know, this is maybe not just about me, and even if my own career is just about me, that doesn't answer for all the incredible, talented women everywhere that are not able to contribute their voices to our entertainment media storytelling. Emerging economies in the developing world have tried to follow the western model for economic prosperity, with arguably the most marked example of the negative consequences being in China where many cities are continually shrouded in smog, some children in those cities who have never seen a blue sky. GROSS: And so it's a kind of - I think at the time, people were comparing it to Butch Cassidy. You know, some shows are researched and all that and certainly harmless. And then the second thing were unions. This documentary takes a deep look at gender disparity in Hollywood through the eyes of well-known actresses and female filmmakers. Thats the problem. TV-PG. 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